Wednesday, August 29, 2012

Applying the Malaysian Citizenship for child born abroad at Putrajaya

Update on 15 Feb 2016 : Went to Putrajaya then JPN Selangor, we finally got the letter stating that the application was approved! The letter was issued on May 2014 but for some reason my family had not received it. We submitted the required documents, JPN will issue us a certificate of nationality between 3 to 6 months. Yeah, she got it!

Ever since I knew that child born abroad to Malaysian mothers could apply for Malaysian citizenship, I have been preparing the documents to apply Malaysian citizenship for Aelig the next time I go back to Malaysia. Finally, mission accomplished and now fingers crossed for the application result.

We arrived at Putrajaya around 2pm. We wasted some times looking for the Jabatan Pendaftaran Negara (JPN) as I forgot that Putrajaya was divided into many Precincts. JPN is located in Precinct 3, not far from the pink Putra Mosque.


The main entrance to JPN at Putrajaya.


The citizenship department is located in level 1.
Once arrived, I went towards the receptionist stating my purpose of visit. She checked some of the documents:
1. Malaysian marriage certificate (I'm so glad I took the hassle to apply for this cert even though my civil wedding was carried out in France)
2. Aelig's birth certificate (They accepted the French-issued multi-lingual birth certificate without problem)
3. Aelig's passport
I sensed that the whole purpose was to make sure that we got married before having Aelig. This was one of the conditions that we have to meet before handling in our application.
She then proceeded by giving me the application form (Borang B).



And she asked me a question that costed me RM70.
"Did you wear long pants?"
"No". I showed her my blue short pants.
"Well, you will not be allowed to go through the process with this pants. Please come back tomorrow."
I was a bit surprised. I do not remember this attire request when I came to JPN last time for the "Certificat de célibataire".
Well, I decided to respect the requirement and asked for direction towards the closest shopping mall and bought myself a pair of jeans. Problem solved.

I took some times to carefully filled out the application form. Here are the required documents (original + 1 photocopy):
1. Child's birth certificate
2. Child's passport
3. Child's photos (3 pieces)
4. Child's first time entering Malaysia (photocopy of the page in the passport)
5. Applicant's birth certificate (I'm the applicant in this case)
6. Applicant's IC
7. Applicant's passport
8. Father's birth certificate (translated in English or Malay)
9. Father's passport
10. Parents' marriage certificate

At that time we were the only applicant at the Citizen department. We were handed a number and moved to another counter. The officer checked through the application form and I had to modify two information:
1. Aelig's race.
In the application form there was Malay, Chinese, Indian and Others. I checked "Others" and put a side note that she was a mixed between Malaysian and French.
Well, the officer insisted that I had to choose between Chinese or French. I hesitated. For me she is Malaysian French. Eventually I chose Chinese, now I regretted. She would probably have more chance if she is grouped in "Others".

2. Aelig's religion
I entered no religion for Aelig. It was apparently not an acceptable answer. Again, we needed to choose. We explained that she has no religion but the officer did not seem to understand. To move on I kindly asked him to check "Christian".

I would say that the whole process was very pleasant and the officers were polite and professional. They verified the photocopies from the original one and chatted with us from time to time. At one point Aelig heard us saying "Terima Kasih" (Thank you in Malay) so she repeated it. The officer was interested in knowing if she knows other Malay words, but she didn't want to corporate. She did sing part of "Chan Mali Chan" in front of them though. I hope this would win their heart and eventually grant her the citizenship. Fingers crossed!

Side note: Hubby was very impressed by the courtesy shown by the government servants he dealed with in Putrajaya. He felt that they are way better than the French civil servants in terms of attitude and service.



24 comments:

  1. Dear Bee Ean,
    Thank you for this very informative post. I am sure there are many mothers like us out there.
    I only have a question: would the child lost his/her French nationality once he/she obtain a Malaysian citizenship?

    regards,
    Sylvia

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  2. Hi Sylvia,

    According to the JPN reply, the child would not lost his or her French nationality will holding the Malaysian citizenship. However, he or she has to choose between being French or Malaysian when he or she turns 21 years old.

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  3. Dear Bee Ean,

    Your post is very informative, thank you. Did you baby travel back to Malaysia with French passport? Did you apply Malaysia passport for your baby in Malaysia?
    When your baby get Malaysia citizenship, is it issuance of Borang W or a Sijil Taraf Kewarganegaraan?

    Kind regards,
    Alice

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  4. Hi,

    Yes she traveled back to Malaysia with a French passport.
    No, we haven't heard from JPN so we couldn't apply for the Malaysian passport yet. I don't know what document she will get if her application gets approved.

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  5. Hi Bee Ean,

    It's been a while since I stopped by, and always a pleasure to read about your daily goings-on in France.

    Have you heard about the citizenship? My update is that once we got the letter of approval, we went to JPN to pick up the cert of citizenship, and with that I also got a Mykid.

    Sze

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  6. Hi Sze,

    Thanks for the update.
    No I still haven't heard from JPN regarding my application.
    I'm curious, what race did you fill for your kid? Chinese? French?

    Thanks
    Bee Ean

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  7. Dear Bee Ean, have you hear from JPN... i too have put in my son's application 2 months back... havent heard anything yet.

    Diane

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    1. Have you receive the decision on your kid Msian citizenship?

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    2. Hi June, yes her application was approved in May 2014 but for some reason we didn't get the letter. She finally got her Malaysian citizenship certificate in Jun 2016 (4 months after we went to JPN to submit the necessary documents).

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  8. Dear diane,

    I contacted the National Registration and Societies Division in Ministry of Home Affairs, they told me that since I submitted my application end of August 2012, I will hear from them before 31 Dec 2013. The application is still being processed.

    So no news yet for me.

    Good luck to you.

    Bee Ean

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  9. Hi Bee Ean

    We came accross your blog as i want to apply msian citizenship for my baby.
    Just wondering if the father needs to sign on any of the applications or just you?
    Can i just bring my husbands birth cert n passport there without my husband?

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    1. Hi Gloria,

      Yes the father has to be there and sign some of the documents. One document, if I remember well, require the father to acknowledge that the child has to choose one citizenship when he / she turns 21.

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    2. Ahh.... Thks so much for the info.... Your post is really very helpful. We applied at the consulate here when my girl was 3 wks old. Now they tell us they did not receive any reply from Msia and we should go back and apply ourselves.

      So glad i found your post

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    3. Hi Bee Ean,

      I came across your blog and thanks for all the information. It really helpful. But, I have a question, if the baby stay in Malaysia with the visitor pass (which is i think 90 days), during that time, the baby travel out of Malaysia and reenter again to Malaysia, is the visit pass recalculate (90 days) again? Do you ever hear about this issue?

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    4. Hi SC,

      Yes that's what I heard, that's how people try to avoid overstay by going in and out of foreign country (like Singapore). But please confirm with the Immigration department.

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  10. Hi Bee Ean,

    Come across your blog,found that very informatic!
    Wanna know,till now, is the application successful?

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    1. Hi Tiffany,

      No unfortunately I haven't gotten any news about my application despite my emails. I have to call them one day to check.

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  11. Hi Bee Ean,

    Hmm..maybe the application will take long time to process.
    Betwwen, when you applied that time,how old was your child? Was your child already reached 1 year old?

    Regards, Tiffany.

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    1. Yes when I applied she has reached 1 year old.

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  12. Hi Bee Ean,
    Thanks for sharing ur exp.Its very useful.I am an Indian citizen and My wife is a Malaysian.We are currently in the US for my work and will be back to India or Malaysia after completing my contract period.If the baby is born in the US will he get Malaysian PR or Citizenship.what are all the steps i need to take.Thank you

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    1. If the baby is born in the US, you will need to apply for the Malaysian citizenship with the Malaysia Embassy before he or she turns one year old. For the application process, please contact your local embassy.

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  13. Hi Bee Ean, so glad to read this! I am now working in Vientiane, Laos and expecting my first child, fyi I am not married and I live with my boyfriend, which is also a Malaysian. I am thinking that it is better for me to deliver my baby in Malaysia and get the birth certificate & passport for the baby done, and go back straight to Laos. Is it possible to manage? Please share your opinions!

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    1. Hi, since you are not married, your might not be able to put your boyfriend as the child's dad. I'm not familiar with this, it would be better if you ask someone in JPN. Good luck!

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  14. Hi everyone, just to let you know that my daughter has her Malaysian citizenship certificate in July 2016.

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